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used this with AOD9064 for 3 days but made it with a 2 oz deuterum depleted water and salt did 10 succusions between each charge and chared it 2 times for each one. I used the entire bottle in a day. I was not hungry at all. I lsot 3 pounds. I am testing this on others and will get back with results. Its important to do the succions after each 2 min